For Gezgin, Apsalar’s DNA as an attribution platform is appealing because it minimizes the need for Topps to share with multiple partners its valuable first-party data, including post-install analytics and revenue data. Apsalar already houses all of that data by default.
“If we have a choice, we’d rather share as little data as possible,” Gezgin said. “Our external partners don’t need to have all of our data just because they’re the provider of a platform we use.”
Topps doesn’t work with any of the legacy clouds. Although the brand’s amassed a lot of data – Gezgin estimates that Topps has acquired around 6 million people in the US so far, which is somewhere between 60% to 70% of the total mobile trading card collector population – it’s not enough to justify the expense of working with Oracle, Salesforce or Adobe.
“Our data warehouse and our internal capabilities are not to a point where we can work with the really big partners yet,” Gezgin said.
Oiknine is unabashed in his ambition to get snapped up by one of the bigger marketing clouds, which he predicts will start getting acquisitive in the mobile space within the next 18 to 24 months. It’s the classic narrative of fragmentation followed by consolidation.
“I would love one of them to acquire us,” he said. “Are you kidding me?”
Although the clouds have been acquisitive recently, they’re still lagging on the mobile front. The DMP Krux, acquired by Salesforce, is a good example.
“They have an SDK, but they’re primarily still a web platform at heart, and one day they will have to really do mobile,” Oiknine said. “And at that point, there will no longer be separate mobile marketing clouds.”
So far, 20 clients use Apsalar‘s cloud functionality; 60% are mobile-first companies and the remainder are more traditional brands.
There’s a healthy market for its cloud platform among brands with big mobile presences, Oiknine said.
“They find it very credible if you work with mobile pure-play companies and they will choose to work with you for that reason, because you have a mobile story to tell,” he said. “Quite frankly, that’s how you start to disrupt the Adobes of the world. You start slow, you work with big clients, you don’t charge as much and then they look over at you and say, ‘Who are these guys and why do customers work with them?’”